tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post2427372367895322881..comments2023-10-24T14:51:45.756+02:00Comments on Bloggertropolis: Words Or Music?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-41433075949708611642008-12-04T19:29:00.000+01:002008-12-04T19:29:00.000+01:00Lucy, a bit of Dusty is always ok by me (class) an...Lucy, a bit of Dusty is always ok by me (class) and I've even been known to blame it on the boogie once or twice...<BR/><BR/>Rol, glad to have you with me. I guess my problem is really a matter of expecting other people to be as intelligent as you or I (and everybody else who's commented here of course).Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-9137003853254702342008-12-04T15:51:00.000+01:002008-12-04T15:51:00.000+01:00As a self-confessed lyrics connoisseur, I'm with y...As a self-confessed lyrics connoisseur, I'm with you all the way. Can't help but wondering if the Manics knew exactly what they were doing when they penned that particular line though.Rolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02103804480646939038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-65640372585626046862008-12-04T14:04:00.000+01:002008-12-04T14:04:00.000+01:00Both! Definitely! Sometimes all you want is a grea...Both! Definitely! Sometimes all you want is a great big bass-heavy disco stomper which blames it on the boogie, like THAT's in any way deep, and sometimes (esp when returning home late and pissed) you want to bung on "Elegance" by Prefab Sprout or "Going Back" by Dusty and sob to your bored partner "That..that's me, that is.." in a way that makes you feel faintly embarrassed and squirmy the following day. I know what you mean about "A Design For Life" though, i have also heard it totally misunderstood by big-necked knobheads in pubs, much as "Born In The USA" was misunderstood, in the, er, USA.Lucy Fishwifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12468092971495182126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-76779956251496374172008-12-04T08:20:00.000+01:002008-12-04T08:20:00.000+01:00Hi Justme: sadly I haven't heard much poetry set t...Hi Justme: sadly I haven't heard much poetry set to music but must admit that when I have I've either been extrememly impressed or totally appalled. When it's good it's very very good but when it's bad it's horrid!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-44429752212409277862008-12-04T00:13:00.000+01:002008-12-04T00:13:00.000+01:00I love lyrics.....always have. And I don't mind if...I love lyrics.....always have. And I don't mind if they are meaningful, or playful, but I like a bit of irony, depth, meaning. At the moment I listen to a lot of Rap music....not the crap gangsta stuff, the better bits and I am finding some of it very thoughtfull and also illuminating. Poetry set to music and very under rated.<BR/>But sometimes I just like cheesy dance music too! Nice post. It made me think.justmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16768035027235782814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-14864457183203754892008-12-03T18:05:00.000+01:002008-12-03T18:05:00.000+01:00"music is necessary - after all, it's a song, not ..."music is necessary - after all, it's a song, not a speech" - Eve, that sums it up rather nicely! Glad to see you are still around - thanks for dropping by! Hope all is going well for you. :-)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-12165135886184300362008-12-03T14:38:00.000+01:002008-12-03T14:38:00.000+01:00Lyrics get me more than songs. it's nice if both a...Lyrics get me more than songs. it's nice if both are good though, like with the classics. some of my favourites are 'runaway train' (i forget by who - but i always listen to that when feeling aimless/down), 'sometimes when we touch' (a very romantic song, i find), 'sometimes love just ain't enough' (melody simple but ok, lyrics very meaningful to me). On the other hand, Harry Chapin has lyrics but not the music, and although i still burn out his songs, i find i can't listen to them that many times. so music is necessary - after all, it's a song, not a speech ;-)-eve-https://www.blogger.com/profile/01051512896652327719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-32338151981742762362008-12-03T13:21:00.000+01:002008-12-03T13:21:00.000+01:00I'll just bang my head against the disco floor unt...I'll just bang my head against the disco floor until it bleeds (the head not the floor). Words are for the middle class.<BR/><BR/>Not really! Some songs are for fun, some are for crying and some are for thinking and nodding ones head.<BR/><BR/>I adore Leonard Cohen, I adore ELO, I adore Neil Young, I adore Britney, I adore Nirvana, I adore Chris Isaak.mevahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006090511428184077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-73406257415928656822008-12-03T08:16:00.000+01:002008-12-03T08:16:00.000+01:00Brother T - the link is much apprecciated.Kate - d...Brother T - the link is much apprecciated.<BR/><BR/>Kate - dodgy lyrics get into everyboy and have to be avoided at all costs.<BR/><BR/>Pearl - Iggy Pop and families definitely do not mix. Sometimes neither do families and holidays.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-47784124624940352172008-12-03T04:36:00.000+01:002008-12-03T04:36:00.000+01:00Me, I'm a lover of words. I take issue with the s...Me, I'm a lover of words. <BR/>I take issue with the songs that are used in commercials. "Lust for Life", for example, for the cruise line. Am I alone in thinking that Iggy Pop is not a great voice for family-friendly vacations?<BR/>PearlPearlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261369905176088917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-82767619859186243672008-12-03T04:29:00.000+01:002008-12-03T04:29:00.000+01:00you know that scene in Jerry Maguire where he is f...you know that scene in Jerry Maguire where he is flicking radio stations and finally comes across "FREEEEEE FALLLLIN'"?<BR/>that. is. me.<BR/>every moment has the right mood music.<BR/><BR/>and i can not stand that ridiculous techno-junk-remix of Billy Jean that they insist on playing ad nauseam at the gym.<BR/>go the iPod. yeah.<BR/><BR/>haven't really answered your question - i tend to be careful with dodgy/icky lyrics - cos i think that it gets into ya. and then the kids sing it and it sounds - really icky.<BR/><BR/>having said that, perhaps most of it goes over their heads? Xskatey katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05586048408864521948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-32470468711991163242008-12-03T00:00:00.000+01:002008-12-03T00:00:00.000+01:00Ah, but Cohen is a poet, isn't he. May I slip a li...Ah, but Cohen is a poet, isn't he. May I slip a link in, for anyone who doubts it?<BR/>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wYJf4J7VBaYBrother Tobiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298549883526952305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-56676544160341577112008-12-02T20:47:00.000+01:002008-12-02T20:47:00.000+01:00Brother T: I think you're right and the matter can...Brother T: I think you're right and the matter can't be simplified down into a clean dichotomy. I'm sure if I go through my record collection I'll find plenty of songs that I love whose lyrics are just sheer nonsense. Different species but related, indeed.<BR/><BR/>Emma, I'm now in my late 30's (40 next year) and still pore over the meaning of lyrics and words. I guess I'm just immature at heart (and loving it). And I'm certainly glad that my life isn't a Cohen song!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-12831749266956334302008-12-02T20:43:00.000+01:002008-12-02T20:43:00.000+01:00Oh I don't know Tris, every time I hear "Halleluja...Oh I don't know Tris, every time I hear "Halleluja" advertizing the latest BBC drama it makes me want to jig about Michael Flatley style...Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-1880303338091015712008-12-02T19:18:00.001+01:002008-12-02T19:18:00.001+01:00I thought it was just a question of age. When you ...I thought it was just a question of age. When you are young you spend weeks mulling over the meaning of song lyrics...I used to do it a lot, looking for the meaning of love and the universe in a leonard cohen song. When we get older I think we realize that life isn't going to be as fanciful or dramatic as we once thought, and also that Bob Dylan etc don't know any more than the rest of us about the so called meaning of lifeMommyHeadachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924035710478459520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-91443551033441176432008-12-02T19:18:00.000+01:002008-12-02T19:18:00.000+01:00It's an interesting point. Loving words like you, ...It's an interesting point. Loving words like you, my gut instinct was to say, 'you can take the music from the words and still be left with something meaningful, but...' Then I realised there's some and some. There are songs with lyrics so banal or spare they shouldn't work, but the song still gives you that shiver. And there are some for which the lyrics are all. There are songs which have been revitalised by lyrics, or better lyrics, and hymns which stir with one tune but not another. I suppose poetry and song are different species, but related?Brother Tobiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298549883526952305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-57939601742648524382008-12-02T15:19:00.000+01:002008-12-02T15:19:00.000+01:00For me, it depends on the context. If I want to da...For me, it depends on the context. If I want to dance, I'm not going to listen to Leonard Cohen. But if I'm feeling reflective, nothing beats Laughin' Len's dense metaphorical, dark, lyrics...Tristanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235856654790610822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-83387208278063481802008-12-02T12:59:00.000+01:002008-12-02T12:59:00.000+01:00You may have a point there, Daisy: maybe our requi...You may have a point there, Daisy: maybe our requirements change as we get older. I'm sure I liked more of the meaningless poppy drivel as a kid and then got "heavier" as I got older (certainly when I hit my teens).Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-8708114920696621962008-12-02T12:32:00.000+01:002008-12-02T12:32:00.000+01:00steve...i have done both...but tend to agree with ...steve...i have done both...but tend to agree with you, the more that time goes by...seems when i look at my ipod it is filled with more meaningful songs...however there is the occassional "i can't drive 55" and such...i do abhor music that specifically puts down a particular race or gender and therefore don't have any ho bashing music...Daisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190578784452773984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-42407139592893141762008-12-01T18:10:00.000+01:002008-12-01T18:10:00.000+01:00Hi RB, yeah kids to have a habit of making up sill...Hi RB, yeah kids to have a habit of making up silly rhymes... and not just kids: I've been guilty of it a few times myself. I guess you're right music / lyrics means different things to different people and the conflict arises when you try and force your viewpoint onto someone else. I do often wonder what happened to those meatheads... maybe they're stuck in dead end jobs with a mortgage and child care repayments bowing them down. Maybe they sing those lyrics now with more of a sense of their true meaning?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35009574.post-38870910849199050382008-12-01T14:44:00.000+01:002008-12-01T14:44:00.000+01:00A bit of both I suppose. I do just like music for...A bit of both I suppose. I do just like music for dancing, running, driving, just as background - and when I listen to it for that the lyrics don't matter a great deal.<BR/><BR/>But I do listen to music for the words as well. In fact, I find it really difficult these days to write a blogpost unless I have some music to go with it. Not that I expect anyone else to listen to it but it helps me to write somehow - unlocks stuff in my head or just gives me flow.<BR/><BR/>But I do think that different lyrics can mean different things to different people or even to yourself at different times (oops got a bit over-differented there, didn't I?). We have to take what we want from them and let others do the same.<BR/><BR/>Shame they spoilt the track for you though. My sons do that all the time, taking the mick out of songs that I like and changing the words to make them seem silly! And they're not even drunk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com